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		<title>By: Mania&#8217;s Arcania, Claw, and Karazhan &#171; BigRedCrab</title>
		<link>http://bigredcrab.wordpress.com/2008/06/05/experiment-how-important-is-claw/#comment-21</link>
		<dc:creator>Mania&#8217;s Arcania, Claw, and Karazhan &#171; BigRedCrab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 20:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] those who were wondering about the Claw Experiment, I just want to clarify that I know it&#8217;s basic common sense to train Claw if it&#8217;s the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mania&#8217;s Arcania &#187; Community Round-Up: Trophies, Crabs and Fish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mania&#8217;s Arcania &#187; Community Round-Up: Trophies, Crabs and Fish</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] Big Red Crab: How Important is Claw? - BRC, one of my favorite new blogs, takes a mathematical look at Claw for crabs. I&#8217;ve often suspected that crabs are saved from ignominious failure primary because of their access to Claw, so it&#8217;s nice to have graphs. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Big Red Crab: How Important is Claw? &#8211; BRC, one of my favorite new blogs, takes a mathematical look at Claw for crabs. I&#8217;ve often suspected that crabs are saved from ignominious failure primary because of their access to Claw, so it&#8217;s nice to have graphs. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: aidem</title>
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		<description>@Airwave: Thanks for the clarification. My math is a little rusty :P

@bbr: Oh trust me, if crabs knew Gore, I&#039;d have that tamed in a heartbeat.

@Carol: You bring up a good point. Although I haven&#039;t actually experimented on that, from my own experience Claw doesn&#039;t share a (global?) cooldown with Stra&#039;s &quot;white&quot; damage. In other words, Claw is used at the same time as a normal hit. This is all from appearance though so it&#039;s something I can look into.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Airwave: Thanks for the clarification. My math is a little rusty <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@bbr: Oh trust me, if crabs knew Gore, I&#8217;d have that tamed in a heartbeat.</p>
<p>@Carol: You bring up a good point. Although I haven&#8217;t actually experimented on that, from my own experience Claw doesn&#8217;t share a (global?) cooldown with Stra&#8217;s &#8220;white&#8221; damage. In other words, Claw is used at the same time as a normal hit. This is all from appearance though so it&#8217;s something I can look into.</p>
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		<title>By: Carol</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please forgive the noob question. I&#039;m really interested in the experiment, but not so sure on the analysis.

You and the previous commentor seem to both be making the assumption that Claw&#039;s damage comes in addition to the melee damage - like icing on the attack cake.  But when Sta makes a Claw attack, does that not take time from the next melee attack?  I know it is instant cast, but I still assumed it was replacing or at least delaying a melee attack - and maybe I&#039;m completely wrong about that. 

If it does replace a melee attack, or slow it, then you can&#039;t just add it on top of the melee damage, you&#039;d have to figure out how much it replaces, then how much extra it adds back in.  

I&#039;m still trying to move from competent hunter working by feel, to expert hunter who understands the underlying mechanics, so I appreciate any clarification - or if you can send me somewhere else with an answer instead.

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please forgive the noob question. I&#8217;m really interested in the experiment, but not so sure on the analysis.</p>
<p>You and the previous commentor seem to both be making the assumption that Claw&#8217;s damage comes in addition to the melee damage &#8211; like icing on the attack cake.  But when Sta makes a Claw attack, does that not take time from the next melee attack?  I know it is instant cast, but I still assumed it was replacing or at least delaying a melee attack &#8211; and maybe I&#8217;m completely wrong about that. </p>
<p>If it does replace a melee attack, or slow it, then you can&#8217;t just add it on top of the melee damage, you&#8217;d have to figure out how much it replaces, then how much extra it adds back in.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m still trying to move from competent hunter working by feel, to expert hunter who understands the underlying mechanics, so I appreciate any clarification &#8211; or if you can send me somewhere else with an answer instead.</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: bbr</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 09:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bite is good, but only in combination with claw or gore.

Also, Gore &gt; Claw

http://rrvs.blogspot.com/2008/05/hunter-pet-dps-part-1.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bite is good, but only in combination with claw or gore.</p>
<p>Also, Gore &gt; Claw</p>
<p><a href="http://rrvs.blogspot.com/2008/05/hunter-pet-dps-part-1.html" rel="nofollow">http://rrvs.blogspot.com/2008/05/hunter-pet-dps-part-1.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Airwave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Airwave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 00:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good testing with interesting results, but I do have two comments_

&quot;If you think an 25% increase in pet damage is important, than yes.&quot;
If we put claw&#039;s damage at 25% of the pet&#039;s entire damage, it&#039;s actually a 33.3% increase in damage. If we assume that the pet&#039;s total damage is 100, and of that the pet&#039;s normal damage is 75 and claw&#039;s damage is 25, then without claw the pet would do 75 damage. If we increase it&#039;s damage by 25 from 75 (to 100), that&#039;s a 25/75 = 0.333 = 33.3% increase.

It would also be interesting to see some similar tests with bite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good testing with interesting results, but I do have two comments_</p>
<p>&#8220;If you think an 25% increase in pet damage is important, than yes.&#8221;<br />
If we put claw&#8217;s damage at 25% of the pet&#8217;s entire damage, it&#8217;s actually a 33.3% increase in damage. If we assume that the pet&#8217;s total damage is 100, and of that the pet&#8217;s normal damage is 75 and claw&#8217;s damage is 25, then without claw the pet would do 75 damage. If we increase it&#8217;s damage by 25 from 75 (to 100), that&#8217;s a 25/75 = 0.333 = 33.3% increase.</p>
<p>It would also be interesting to see some similar tests with bite.</p>
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